usenet -- I remember seeing this in the mid 90s. mp3, 1996 or so, in the few years before that I remember getting mp2s from IUMA, and .au files at 8khz from random ftp sites too (made a DOS audio player for parallel-port DACs etc in 1994-ish). morris worm I remember hearing about in the 90s but was not aware of it in the 80s. IRC also around 1995+ iirc. Saw the web in ca 1993. anyway now I'm losing interest heh